tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post112567041344904818..comments2024-03-08T03:12:18.926-05:00Comments on Upon Further Review...: America needs a LeaderJohn Howardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1126038472251099292005-09-06T16:27:00.000-04:002005-09-06T16:27:00.000-04:00Whatever B. I will not go on a blog and hassle so...Whatever B. I will not go on a blog and hassle someone or call them names.sumohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03668836906276970398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1126013342812887402005-09-06T09:29:00.000-04:002005-09-06T09:29:00.000-04:00Regardless of how the operation is run or is suppo...Regardless of how the operation is run or is supposed to be run, the bottomline is that it failed in this case. And I don't think it's for lack of people wllling to help, I think it's for a lot of reasons, including lack of proper planning, lack of funding, and maybe most importantly in this case, lack of anyone willing to step up and take the lead and be responsible for getting things done. Obviously it isn't an easy thing to do, but 5 days to even begin is too long.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125960423654741782005-09-05T18:47:00.000-04:002005-09-05T18:47:00.000-04:00BullThis was an unprecedented event and guess what...Bull<BR/><BR/>This was an unprecedented event and guess what any administration Democrat or Republican does its best. Convoys and aid does not flow like manna from the heaven. I was a logistics manager in the private sector.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile I went into work early and my the first wave of coworkers was clearing old cases. Several workers including friends aredeparting. These people do not ask if the people we are helping are Democrats or Republicans or Chomskyites. The fac that they are American is enough.<BR/><BR/>Fema is a sister agency to the one I work in . The DHS umbrella allows for personel to be shifted as needed.<BR/><BR/>Sumo I have read your blog and no comment. Rob my coworkers are just like me they are happy to serve and the response to volunteer was overwhelming. There are alot of people here who are quite dedicated<BR/>and we all serve because we love our country. Most have advanced degrees and could do much better in the private sector.<BR/><BR/>Your assesment of my motives shows how bitter and divorced from reality you are. The correct response is JRH's as I did not have to volunteer.<BR/><BR/>The extreeme partisan rhetoric will boomarang. <BR/><BR/>Summo like John I do not censor a single post. You can find 100% personal attacks on my blog. Anyone that wants to step to the plate is free to do so. This is certainly more then other blogs permit.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125952874082509112005-09-05T16:41:00.000-04:002005-09-05T16:41:00.000-04:00I'm seeing more and more people say they don't exp...I'm seeing more and more people say they don't expect any long term political fallout from this, so they might get away with this too.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125930793192456962005-09-05T10:33:00.000-04:002005-09-05T10:33:00.000-04:00The plain fact is that the head of FEMA is a Bush ...The plain fact is that the head of FEMA is a Bush appointee. The head of Homeland Security is a Bush appointee. They both blew it bad - and because of their own incompetence. Brown is just plain useless, and should never have had that job in the first place, and Chertoff got up on Monday and looked at the papers and based his response on what the headlines said??? say what???<BR/><BR/>Now they're blaming the boogieman democrats and the media for their own incompetence? I just don't think it'll fly, but I've been wrong before. <BR/><BR/>People are getting very tired of spin!SB Gypsyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14104522586390324382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125896987551722132005-09-05T01:09:00.000-04:002005-09-05T01:09:00.000-04:00Oh, so you know the person with the best blog on t...Oh, so you know the person with the best blog on the internets also?John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125895382755079972005-09-05T00:43:00.000-04:002005-09-05T00:43:00.000-04:00Thanks John...that's what blogger friends are for....Thanks John...that's what blogger friends are for...cause...when your friend has the hottest and/or best blog on the internets...that's what ya do!sumohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03668836906276970398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125847527211353022005-09-04T11:25:00.000-04:002005-09-04T11:25:00.000-04:00beakerkin doesn't bother me. All views are welcome...beakerkin doesn't bother me. All views are welcome here, even ones I don't understand or agree with. Hopefully we can all keep the name calling and personal insults to a minimum, but if not, I'm not planning on banning anyone or anything. We're all adults here. I do wish beakerkin could offer some reason for his views which might contribute to the discussion, rather than just blindly defending the administration.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I appreciate everyone's support.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125813999587130222005-09-04T02:06:00.000-04:002005-09-04T02:06:00.000-04:00If memory serves... those of us here that visit Jo...If memory serves... those of us here that visit John haven't called anyone names. I don't feel even comfortable having this conversation on someone elses blog. But I felt I had to defend John against your insessant arguing. I've been to your blog Beakerkin some time ago...and you call people names and make fun of them. One person in particular you were very cruel to that I know...and I thought it was very classless of you and your cronies. And you did it for many weeks. I knew I didn't want that for myself so I said nothing. The point I'm trying to make is you have all the right in the world on your own blog...but don't hunt people down for the sake of arguing and start calling names...it isn't cool. You know you feel differently from us...and John is a good host to you by not telling you to hit the road. I'd tell you to hit the road on mine...it isn't serving a purpose except for you to argue for the sake of arguing. Is it so dull on your site that you must come to harass others that you know won't ever see it your way? If I come across a site like yours I simply don't go back...I don't tastelessly tell them they're dimwits because they disagree with me.<BR/>Come on...dimwits? You know in your heart whom you just described don't you?!!!!!!...John I know you don't need defending...but I couldn't forget anymore the cruel disdane of his remarks on his site about a friend...and I have to tell you I haven't found such mean spiritedness in a persons blog as this man.sumohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03668836906276970398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125804876935140532005-09-03T23:34:00.000-04:002005-09-03T23:34:00.000-04:00Evedrybody did the best they couldThat just isn't ...<EM>Evedrybody did the best they could</EM><BR/><BR/>That just isn't true.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125799646012227672005-09-03T22:07:00.000-04:002005-09-03T22:07:00.000-04:00Rob and SumoAt least John talks about the victims....Rob and Sumo<BR/><BR/>At least John talks about the victims. I guess partisanship is more important then lives.<BR/><BR/>Evedrybody did the best they could this was a calamity. Unlike some of you I lived through calamities.<BR/>We all do the best we can and it is easy for Monday morning quaterbacking. My coworkers are there at the front or are prepaing to depart.<BR/><BR/>I expect as the magnitude of this tragedy is revealed that every single person with no kids in my office will be shipped out. I took an oath to serve wherever my country needs me. Honor and Duty Rob are the creed of my coworkers .beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125799011644090872005-09-03T21:56:00.000-04:002005-09-03T21:56:00.000-04:00RobSure I took an 80% cut in pay and move 400 mile...Rob<BR/><BR/>Sure I took an 80% cut in pay and move 400 miles from my friends , family and culture for attention. Has it occured to you that my coworkers and I serve because we love our country ? This is a pathology on your part big time. I volunteered to go to NO to impress a dullard like you. Maybe my coworkers are also trying to impress dimwits.<BR/><BR/>No my coworkers are dedicated patriotic people who love their job and care about their contrymen . I contrast this with the ghouls like yourselves who try to parlay a national tragedy into political gain. The victims are just meaningless sacrafices. You guys continue to talk while my coworkers continue to build and save lives.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125775323722099242005-09-03T15:22:00.000-04:002005-09-03T15:22:00.000-04:00Beakerkin, your arguments are lousy, they could be...Beakerkin, your arguments are lousy, they could be used any time anyone blames anything on Bush. Sometimes, he actually does deserve blame, and this is absolutely one of those times. Whether it's for having his priorities all fucked up and wasting out resources somewhere else, or for underfunding the projects in New Orleans, or for screwing up FEMA they way he did, or for his miserable response time to this disaster, while he was offplaying his guitar, these things are all his fault. Now, there is certainly plenty of blame to go around, and certainly Democrats that deserve some as well, the difference between you and me is that I acknowledge that and you defend Bush no matter what he does wrong. As for why I'm focusing on him instead of the other people, it's because first of all he is ultimately in charge, and secondly, this is another in a long line of things he has failed in. A lot of people were quieter about his previous mistakes in the interest of unity, but that doesn't help anything. When people make mistakes this big, it needs to be talked about.<BR/><BR/>As for you volunteering, that is great. But you have no idea what anyone else here has or hasn't doneto help, because we aren't patting ourselves on the back about it. So for you to assue that people aren't doing anything is ridiculous.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125771877485561202005-09-03T14:24:00.000-04:002005-09-03T14:24:00.000-04:00BAH! Let us know when you go and keep us appraised...BAH! Let us know when you go and keep us appraised of how it's going there. Maybe you'll get a photo op with him. Take extra underwear...because when you meet your fearless leader I think that you may soil yourself.sumohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03668836906276970398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125756277681446122005-09-03T10:04:00.000-04:002005-09-03T10:04:00.000-04:00Robert Bayn said... But umm if republicans are in ...Robert Bayn said... <BR/>But umm if republicans are in charge, they are to blame? LOL <BR/><BR/>What you people seem to be forgetting or your just plain ignorant to the fact that under Federal Law the Govenor of a Sate has to ask for help.<BR/><BR/>The Govenor of LA a Democrat (Rob) sat on her hands for 4 days before she even ordered out her own guard. She waited for days before she made the call necessary to get Federal Aid moving. <BR/><BR/>So if a Democrat is in charge then they are to blame. But the truth does not matter to people whos only aim in life is to blame republicans and cannot accept that the actions of one of there own extended the misery of New Orleans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125742813302554172005-09-03T06:20:00.000-04:002005-09-03T06:20:00.000-04:00SumoYou might also add local government to your li...Sumo<BR/><BR/>You might also add local government to your list. NO has never been a well run city. In fairness I recognize the scope and magnitude.<BR/><BR/>Preparedness begins at the LOCAL level. Where has the LA congressional delegation been when Kerry and Kennedy were hoarding public works money on the Big Dig.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125742328441460732005-09-03T06:12:00.000-04:002005-09-03T06:12:00.000-04:00SumoGet a grip as I am one of the many people from...Sumo<BR/><BR/>Get a grip as I am one of the many people from my office who volunteered to go. While I volunteered to go what have you and the rest done other then words.<BR/><BR/>In reality I have a low priority number so I most likely will have to pick up the slack of others.<BR/><BR/>Playing partisan games with human tragedy is loathsome. Are you going to blame Bush for Atlantis sinking next.<BR/><BR/>We can also claim with more accuracy that the money spent on the levees was wasted on the Big Dig in Boston. However in reality pork is a bipartisan issue so get a grip.<BR/><BR/>FEMA is doing the best they can and many of my coworkers and possibly myself are planning on spending months there. While my coworkers and those who are left behind put our boots on the ground all you do is talk. <BR/><BR/>Standard left wing agitprop got nose hairs blame Bush. Price of twinkies goes up blame Bush. Your car doesn't start Blame Bush. The Titanic sunk blame Bush.beakerkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06088967209404588378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125721824727888462005-09-03T00:30:00.000-04:002005-09-03T00:30:00.000-04:00This hurricane constitutes an attack on our soil t...This hurricane constitutes an attack on our soil the same as a terrorist attack. The fact that this administration won the fucking election because they promised how secure they would make the nation, makes me sick as I look at this hypocrisy. There is no argument that a national disaster is different than a hurricane, because the Bush administration reorganized FEMA under the Deparment of Homeland Security for exactly that reason. They were unprepared and they have not done anything to help, bottom line.MeitÃnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00556970667315193606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125709268669822532005-09-02T21:01:00.000-04:002005-09-02T21:01:00.000-04:00Good one John. Beakerkin I don't know why you bot...Good one John. Beakerkin I don't know why you bother to keep coming to argue here...is it because you really love to argue for the sake of arguing? I wish you had lived through this so that having been one of the multitude that was doing without...you might understand their pain and anger at the same time. Their leader and his underlings failed them in an enormous fashion. Nero fiddled while Rome burned and Bush golfed and presented a birthday cake to John McCain while New Orleans became no man's land. In the aftermath many of these people didn't have to die needlessly as I feel they did. Help "too" late...is help too late. Condi went shoe shopping instead of getting on a chopper or plane to get to where all the higher-ups WERE NEEDED. Sometimes those in high positions lend their bodies to these occasions simply to listen and offer hope even if at that moment that is all they can personally do. They didn't even do THAT! They all ate and drank and had the use of toilets and a bed to sleep in and clean clothes. They really identify with Americans in a big way don't they? See if you can say those things without lying on your own blog. You have really bought into their hype. I've read you here arguing before and I haven't said anything like I finally have now because I haven't wanted you to come to my blog and do to me what you do to John. But letting Georgie and his henchmen off the hook for this goes beyond the pale. And the hook isn't Katrina...it's not deciding to come forward much sooner...not doing anything. Does the word reprehensible mean anything?sumohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03668836906276970398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125692794338354162005-09-02T16:26:00.001-04:002005-09-02T16:26:00.001-04:00Yes, it does go both ways, but that doesn't make i...Yes, it does go both ways, but that doesn't make it ok.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125692401821126532005-09-02T16:20:00.000-04:002005-09-02T16:20:00.000-04:00... by "this way" I mean the placing of blame.... by "this way" I mean the placing of blame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125692332163581422005-09-02T16:18:00.000-04:002005-09-02T16:18:00.000-04:00Democratic Talking Points: When in doubt and you a...Democratic Talking Points: When in doubt and you are in the wrong, twist the facts and blame Republicans.<BR/><BR/>Look guys... it goes both ways. It's been this way in every administration & it probably will continue for years to come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125687368016870022005-09-02T14:56:00.000-04:002005-09-02T14:56:00.000-04:00Yeah, everything is Clinton's fault, conversely, n...Yeah, everything is Clinton's fault, conversely, nothing is Bush's fault. I wonder if they'll be so quick to point the finger at the previous administration when that previous administration is Bush.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125681135797264512005-09-02T13:12:00.000-04:002005-09-02T13:12:00.000-04:00Right on, John.Right on, John.Melissa McEwanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04784594504716679607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1125677001054163212005-09-02T12:03:00.000-04:002005-09-02T12:03:00.000-04:00Again, my point in the post is that anyone can off...Again, my point in the post is that anyone can offer up excuses, and some may even be good ones, but what we need now, in this situation is someone who doesn't do that, but instead takes responsibility to get things under control.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.com