tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post115314910495028889..comments2024-03-08T03:12:18.926-05:00Comments on Upon Further Review...: Veto risk threatens stem-cell fundingJohn Howardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1153418681893103212006-07-20T14:04:00.000-04:002006-07-20T14:04:00.000-04:00Storm, as for why the private sector can't fund th...Storm, as for why the private sector can't fund this, I've seen it explained much better than I could do it in many other places in the last couple of days. Look around and I'm sure you'll be able to find plenty of good reasons.<BR/><BR/>As for the drugs you mention, I don't know a lot about the details of drug research, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if you looked back deeply into the research that led to the drugs you're talking about to find a lot of public money, especially in early stages. Why do you think the government doesn't contribute to things like this?<BR/><BR/>There are plenty of places where it would be a good idea to say enough already regarding government spending, but this is most certainly not that place.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1153334207182923702006-07-19T14:36:00.000-04:002006-07-19T14:36:00.000-04:00I do not doubt government funds research. I questi...<I>I do not doubt government funds research. I question 2 things first the success of that research and secondly the Constitutional grounds of that research. </I><BR/><BR/>And that's a completely different argument than the one the vocal opponents of this bill (who my post addresses) are making.<BR/><BR/>I never said you want to ban the practice, I said that you can bet the people opposing it on moral grounds most certainly do. Believe it or not, I do not form all my opinions of consevatives based only on the two conservative commentors on my blog.<BR/><BR/>I agree the government spends way too much of our money. Where we disagree is what to get rid of. I say funding stem cell research is far more important than many, many things the government wastes money on, most notably a pointless war. I'd much rather money be spent that could possibly save people than spending it killing people, even if we occasionally kill some bad people.<BR/><BR/>I don't think it necessarily can or should be handled by the private sector. You could make that argument for anything. Maybe you're one of those people that thinks the government should do almost nothing, but I'm not.<BR/><BR/>Of course the government spends too much money, but have you been objecting to all the other incredible wastes of money supported by your conservative brethern? Or is it just this one you have a problem with? Because it honestly seems like an odd time to suddenly close up the checkbook.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1153267379864897022006-07-18T20:02:00.000-04:002006-07-18T20:02:00.000-04:00Storm, you miss the point. Holly's linkis irrelev...Storm, you miss the point. Holly's linkis irrelevant to your personal objection to the funding of stem cell research on grounds that it isn't the government's place to do this research. However, that is not the argument that most of the opponents are making, they are making the argument that it is wrong because it destroys human life. And if you think they're not in favor of banning the research altogether than you're not paying attention. The only reason they're not actively working for that is that they don't have the support for it. However, I can see them taking that step if their efforts are successful to limit government funding of the research. <BR/><BR/>Your argument is disengenuous because it assumes that everyone's objection to the funding of research is the same as yours, which you know is not true. And also because you know that the government does fund research, whether you support it or not.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1153266782457128422006-07-18T19:53:00.000-04:002006-07-18T19:53:00.000-04:00The government does fund research, storm. If they ...The government does fund research, storm. If they didn't, perhaps I could see your point. But they do, and they should fund this research because it is important, and people want it.John Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895903722298748059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1153244341774141672006-07-18T13:39:00.000-04:002006-07-18T13:39:00.000-04:00Here's something interesting about the pro life mo...Here's something interesting about the pro life movement and the rhythm method (currently the only birth control method "allowed" by the Catholic church)<BR/><BR/>http://jme.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/32/6/355<BR/><BR/>According to this medical journal report, there are more embryonic deaths from they rhythm method than there are from other forms of bc.<BR/><BR/>I guess if you "accidentally" kill an embryo that doesn't count.Keriannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17261463769101834429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8804629.post-1153163440401922542006-07-17T15:10:00.000-04:002006-07-17T15:10:00.000-04:00excellent rant. Came here from Shake's.excellent rant. Came here from Shake's.Fran / Blue Galhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18293627981248346055noreply@blogger.com