Tuesday, July 26, 2005

Taliban on the run but far from vanquished

Wow, I thought Afghanistan was our great model of success. Maybe if we had stayed focused there instead of pursuing this nonesense in Iraq, we could have actually finished the job in Afghanistan by now. But I guess it's better to do two things half-assedly, then to do one thing right.

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Patrick said...

Hmmm, half-assedly. Two countries have had their first free elections in forever, Saddam's in the clink, ObL is either dead or leaping from cave to cave (haven't seen any live video in a while, have you?), the Iraqi police and military are independently performing raids and developing intel, and... I'm sorry, what were you saying about half-assedly? Oh yeah, we don't have Osama's dead carcass so it's a failure. Got'cha.

John Howard said...

Oh please, that's ridiculous. What good are elections if people are afraid to leave their homes? Osama is relaxing somewhere because he knows no one is looking for him. The Iraqi police seem get blown up a lot. It's half assed because if we had devoted even half the resources for this time to Afghanistan that we are wasting in Iraq, we probably actually could have done something really good there. Instead, Afghanistan is looking more and more like it did before we got there and Iraq looks worse than we found it.

The Disgruntled Chemist said...

"There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power way!"

"Isn't that the wrong way?"

"Yeah, but faster!"

Substitute 'George Bush' for 'Max Power' and I think I might just have uncovered the secret of the war on terror!

The Disgruntled Chemist said...

Er, oh yeah, re: Osama, the goddamn director of the CIA said that we know where he is, but since he's in the territory of a country we consider an ally, we can't go get him.

If I know that, Osama knows that. I doubt he's running scared. This 'war on terror' has been a monumental fuckup from the day Bush decided to invade Iraq, and it's only gotten us farther from catching the man actually responsible for 9/11.

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Perhaps both of you missed the news, but we lost a bunch of SF guys a few weeks back the the speculation (which you won't believe unless it's anti-military / anti-Bush) is that the original SEAL team got a little too close to ObL. Which puts the lie to statements by both of you.

Of course, it wasn't reported that way on NPR or the NYT, so I'm sure you didn't catch it.

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I heard about that, patrick, but I don't see how anything you just said makes any kind of point whatsoever.

So you're saying that a bunch of special forces soldiers died because they got too close to Osama. Who are we supposed to think killed them? Iran? Osama's forces? Government coverup? I don't understand.

And besides, why does it matter? I can't think of any concievable situation wherein how some Navy SEALs died proves my argument or John's to be incorrect. Just because they're dead doesn't mean that he's not in an allied country and we don't want to go get him, which would in fact be a half-assed way of going about this war on terror.

And doesn't the fact that it was Special Forces troops (instead of a whole brigade of soldiers) that got close to Osama actually prove my point? Special Forces are the guys we send in when it would be illegal to send in the whole Army; that makes sense if he's in one of our allies' territory. So again I ask, what exactly is your point, patrick?

Please, enlighten me.

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